(brief, sorry, via Phone. More details to follow) I gradually splitting discussion pages into separate comment pages, containing a comment directive. The "date" attribute is being set to the date output by gig for a commit. (I'd hope this was parseable) The presentation of the resulting comments is not sorted by this date, which I would hope/expect, but instead by the ctime or mtime of the file at the other end, as best I can tell. -- [[Jon]] > Yes, comments are displayed via an inline, and usual [[pagespec/sorting]] > (eg, default of when the file was first seen) is used. The comment > date only affects the date displayed. > > > That's not what I intended - it's meant to be more or less just > > syntactic sugar for `\[[!meta date=foo]]`, setting the `%pagectime`. > > The code looks as though it ought to work, but perhaps it's buggy? > > (edited to add: it is, see below) --[[smcv]] > > The only time I've seen this be much problem personally is when moving > a page, which means moving its comments directory, which tends to > jumble the order. (And --gettime does not help, as ikiwiki does not > tell git to follow renames for speed reasons.) > > I wonder if it wouldn't be best to just get rid of the extra date > inside the comment, and rely on the file date as is done for other pages. > Thoughts [[smcv]]? > > Altenatively, since comments tend to be named "comment_N_.....", > adding a new [[pagespec/sorting]] method that sorts by filename, > rather than by title, and using it by default for comments might be > better than the current situation. --[[Joey]] >> Since git does not track file time, I tend to prefer to encode date >> stuff inside files where possible. For other pages, I put an explicit >> [[plugins/meta]] date into the source when I create the page. I've >> had to reconstruct ordering after moving to a different git checkout >> after a server move before, it was painful ☺ >> >> In my current situation, I could live with by-filename ordering. By-title >> ordering would also be workable. — [[Jon]] >>> I agree with Jon's reasons for embedding an explicit date in the file. >>> As I said, this is *meant* to work, but it might not. >>> >>> Sorting by filename would only be useful with >>> [[!cpan Sort::Naturally]], since normal `cmp` ordering would break pages >>> with more than 9 comments. --s ---- [[!template id=gitbranch author="[[smcv]]" branch=smcv/comments-metadata]] I thought that, as internal pages, comments were not preprocessed (and so their date attributes did not have a chance to take effect) until they were already being inlined, by which time they have already been sorted by the files' ctimes. Actually, I was wrong about that - internal pages have a special case elsewhere - but they did skip the `scan` hook, which is also fixed in my branch. The real bug was that the preprocess hook for comments didn't run in the scan phase; my branch fixes that, streamlines that hook a bit when run in the scan phase (so it doesn't htmlize, and only runs nested directives in scan mode), and adds a regression test. --[[smcv]] [[!tag patch]] > Thanks.. I am not 100% sure if I just forgot to scan internal pages > or left it out as some kind of optimisation since none needed to be > scanned. Anyway, if it was an optimisation it was not much of one > since they were preprocessed. All applied, [[done]]. --[[Joey]]