As documented in [[plugins/write]], the current `renamepage` hook is heavily oriented towards updating links in pages' content: it is run once per page linking to the renamed page. That's fine, but it can't be used to trigger more general actions on page rename. E.g. it won't be run at all if the page being renamed is an orphan one. This is a real issue for the [[plugins/contrib/po]] development: what I'm about to achieve is: - when a master page is renamed, the plugin takes notice of it (using the `rename` hook), and later renames the translation pages accordingly (in the `change` hook) - when a master page is deleted, the plugin deletes its translations (using the `delete` hook) With the current `renamepage` hook behavior, combining these two goals has an annoying drawback: a plugin can't notice an orphan master page has been renamed, so instead of renaming (and preserving) its translations, it considers the oldpage as deleted, and deletes its translations. Game over. It may seem like a corner case, but I want to be very careful when deleting files automatically in `srcdir`, which is not always under version control. As a sad workaround, I can still disable any deletion in `srcdir` when it is not under version control. But I think ikiwiki deserves a global `renamepage` hook that would be run once per rename operation. My proposal is thus: - keep the documented `renamepage` hook as it is - use something inspired by the trick `preprocess` uses: when `hook` is passed an optional "global" parameter, set to a true value, the declared `renamepage` hook is run once per rename operation, and is passed named parameters: `src`, `srcfile`, `dest` and `destfile`. I'm of course volunteering to implement this, or anything related that would solve my problem. Hmmm? --[[intrigeri]] > I think it would be better to have a different hook that is called for > renames, since the two hook actions are very different (unlike the > preprocess hook, which does a very similar thing in scan mode). > > Just calling it `rename` seems like a reasonable name, by analogy with > the `delete` and `change` hooks. > > It might make sense to rename `renamepage` to `renamelink` to make it > clearer what it does. (I'm not very worried about this breaking things, at > this point.) --[[Joey]] >> In my `po` branch, I renamed `renamepage` to `renamelink`, and >> created a `rename` hook that is passed a reference to `@torename`. >> --[[intrigeri]] >>> As Joey highlights it on [[plugins/contrib/po]], it's too late to >>> merge such a change, as the 3.x plugin API is released and should >>> not be broken. I will thus keep the existing `renamepage` as it >>> is, and call `rename` the global hook I need. --[[intrigeri]] >>>> [[Done]] in my `po` branch. --[[intrigeri]] I think I see a problem in the rename hook. The hook is called before the plugin adds any subpages to the set of pages to rename. So, if the user choses to rename subpages, po will not notice they are moving, and will not move their po files. Perhaps the hooks should be moved to come after subpages are added. This would, though, mean that if the hook somehow decides to add entirely other pages to the list, their subpages would not be automatically added. I also have some qualms about the design of the hook. In particular, passing the mutable array reference probably makes it impossible to use from external plugins. Instead it could return any additional rename hashes it wants to add. Or, if the ability to modify existing hashes is desired, it could return the full set of hashes. --[[Joey]] > I fixed the last part, i.e. a rename hook function now returns the > full set of hashes. As I also converted it to take named parameters, > such a function still is passed a reference to the original array, > though, because one can't build a hash containing an array of hashes > as a value, without passing this array as a reference. > >> Sure. > > I'm not entirely sure about your first concern. Calling the hook > before or after the subpages addition both have their own problems. > > What about running the hook before *and* after the subpages > addition, with an additional `when` named parameter, so that > a given hook function can choose to act only before or after, or both? > > --[[intrigeri]] >> >> Have you thought about making the hook be run once *per* file that is >> selected to be renamed? This would even handle the case where two >> plugins use the hook; plugin A would see when plugin B adds a new file >> to be renamed. And the subpage renaming stuff could probably be moved >> into the rename hook too. --[[Joey]] >>> >>> I've implemented this nice solution in my po branch, please review. >>> I'm slowly coming back to do the last bits needed to get my po and >>> meta branch merged. --[[intrigeri]] >>>> It looks good. I made some small changes to it in my own po branch. >>>> Nothing significant really. If this were not tied up in the po branch, >>>> I've have merged it to master already. --[[Joey]] >>>> Thanks, this is great :) --[[intrigeri]]