I've been working on a plugin called "po", that adds support for multi-lingual wikis, translated with gettext, using [po4a](http://po4a.alioth.debian.org/). More information: * It can be found in [my "po" branch](http://repo.or.cz/w/ikiwiki/intrigeri.git?a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/po): `git clone git://repo.or.cz/ikiwiki/intrigeri.git` * It involves adding three hooks to ikiwiki core. * It is documented (including TODO and plans for next work steps) in `doc/plugins/po.mdwn`, which can be found in the same branch. * No public demo site is available so far, I'm working on this. My plan is to get this plugin clean enough to be included in ikiwiki. The current version is a proof-of-concept, mature enough for me to dare submitting it here, but I'm prepared to hear various helpful remarks, and to rewrite parts of it as needed. Any thoughts on this? > Well, I think it's pretty stunning what you've done here. Seems very > complete and well thought out. I have not read the code in great detail > yet. > > Just using po files is an approach I've never seen tried with a wiki. I > suspect it will work better for some wikis than others. For wikis that > just want translations that match the master language as closely as > possible and don't wander off and diverge, it seems perfect. (But what happens > if someone edits the Discussion page of a translated page?) > > Please keep me posted, when you get closer to having all issues solved > and ready for merging I can do a review and hopefully help with the > security items you listed. --[[Joey]] >> Thanks a lot for your quick review, it's reassuring to hear such nice words >> from you. I did not want to design and write a full translation system, when >> tools such as gettext/po4a already have all the needed functionality, for cases >> where the master/slave languages paradigm fits. >> Integrating these tools into ikiwiki plugin system was a pleasure. >> >> I'll tell you when I'm ready for merging, but in the meantime, >> I'd like you to review the changes I did to the core (3 added hooks). >> Can you please do this? If not, I'll go on and hope I'm not going to far in >> the wrong direction. >> >>> Sure.. I'm not completly happy with any of the hooks since they're very >>> special purpose, and also since `run_hooks` is not the best interface >>> for a hook that modifies a variable, where only the last hook run will >>> actually do anything. It might be better to just wrap >>> `targetpage`, `bestlink`, and `beautify_urlpath`. But, I noticed >>> the other day that such wrappers around exported functions are only visible by >>> plugins loaded after the plugin that defines them. >>> >>> Update: Take a look at the new "Function overriding" section of >>> [[plugins/write]]. I think you can just inject wrappers about a few ikiwiki >>> functions, rather than adding hooks. The `inject` function is pretty >>> insane^Wlow level, but seems to work great. --[[Joey]] >>> >>>> Thanks a lot, it seems to be a nice interface for what I was trying to achieve. >>>> I may be forced to wait two long weeks before I have a chance to confirm >>>> this. Stay tuned. --[[intrigeri]] >>>> >>>>> I've updated the plugin to use `inject`. It is now fully self-contained, >>>>> and does not modify the core anymore. --[[intrigeri]] >> >> The Discussion pages issue is something I am not sure about yet. But I will >> probably decide that "slave" pages, being only translations, don't deserve >> a discussion page: the discussion should happen in the language in which the >> pages are written for real, which is the "master" one. --[[intrigeri]] >> >> I think that's a good decision, you don't want to translate discussion, >> and if the discussion page turns out multilingual, well, se la vi. ;-) >> >> Relatedly, what happens if a translated page has a broken link, and you >> click on it to edit it? Seems you'd first have to create a master page >> and could only then translate it, right? I wonder if this will be clear >> though to the user. >> >> And also, is there any way to start a translation of a page into a new >> lanauge using the web interface? >> >> FWIW, I'm tracking your po branch in ikiwiki master git in the po >> branch. One thing I'd like to try in there is setting up a translated >> basewiki, which seems like it should be pretty easy to do, and would be >> a great demo! --[[Joey]]