commenting on the link-text-from-title idea

[ikiwiki.git] / doc / ikiwiki / wikilink / discussion.mdwn

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@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
-# Creating an anchor in Markdown
+# Creating an [[anchor]] in Markdown

 
 

-Is it a native Markdown "tag" for creating an anchor? Unfortunately,
+Is it a native Markdown "tag" for creating an [[anchor]]? Unfortunately,

 I haven't any information about it at
 [Markdown syntax](http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax) page.
 
 I haven't any information about it at
 [Markdown syntax](http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax) page.
 


@@ -43,6 +43,11 @@ BTW, ikiwiki doesn't displays the #foo anchor in the example
 
 >> Fixed that --[[Joey]]
 
 
 >> Fixed that --[[Joey]]
 

+The 'name' attribute of the 'a' element is a depracated way to create a named anchor. The right way to do that is using the 'id' attribute of any element. This is because an anchor may refer to a complete element rather than some point in the page.
+
+Standard purity aside, if you define an anchor (using either 'a name' or 'id') to a single point in the document but refer to a complete section, the browser may just show that specific point at the bottom of the page rather than trying to show all the section.
+--[[tzafrir]]
+

 ---
 
 Considering a hierarchy like `foo/bar/bar`, I had the need to link from the
 ---
 
 Considering a hierarchy like `foo/bar/bar`, I had the need to link from the


@@ -51,6 +56,19 @@ simply write [[wikilink]]s like `\[[../bar]]` (or even just `\[[..]]`?), but
 this doesn't work, so I had to resort to using `\[[foo/bar]]` instead.
 --[[tschwinge]]
 
 this doesn't work, so I had to resort to using `\[[foo/bar]]` instead.
 --[[tschwinge]]
 

+> I believe, that doesn't entirely solve the problem. Just assume, your hierarchy is `/foo/bar/foo/bar`.
+
+> How do you access from the page `/foo/bar/foo/bar` the `/foo/bar` and not `/foo/bar/foo/bar`?
+
+> Do we have a way to implement `\[[../..]]` or `\[[/foo/bar]]`?
+
+> Even worse, trying to link from `/foo/bar` to `/foo/bar/foo/bar` ... this will probably need `\[[./foo/bar]]` --[[Jan|jwalzer]]
+
+>> There is no ".." syntax in wikilinks, but if the link begins with "/" it
+>> is rooted at the top of the wiki, as documented in
+>> [[subpage/linkingrules]]. Therefore, every example page name you listed
+>> above will work unchanged as a wikilink to that page! --[[Joey]]
+

 ----
 
 How do I make images clickable?  The obvious guess, \[[foo.png|/index]], doesn't work.  --[[sabr]]
 ----
 
 How do I make images clickable?  The obvious guess, \[[foo.png|/index]], doesn't work.  --[[sabr]]


@@ -58,3 +76,16 @@ How do I make images clickable?  The obvious guess, \[[foo.png|/index]], doesn't
 > You can do it using the img plugin. The syntax you suggested would be ambiguous,
 > as there's no way to tell if the text is meant to be an image or displayed as-is.
 > --[[Joey]]
 > You can do it using the img plugin. The syntax you suggested would be ambiguous,
 > as there's no way to tell if the text is meant to be an image or displayed as-is.
 > --[[Joey]]

+
+----
+
+Is it possible to refer to a page, say \[[foobar]], such that the link text is taken from foobar's title [[directive/meta]] tag? --Peter
+
+> Not yet. :-) Any suggestion for a syntax for it? Maybe something like \[[|foobar]] ? --[[Joey]]
+
+I like your suggestion because it's short and conscise. However, it would be nice to be able to refer to more or less arbitrary meta tags in links, not just "title". To do that, the link needs two parameters: the page name and the tag name, i.e. \[[pagename!metatag]]. Any sufficiently weird separater can be used instead of '!', of course. I like \[[pagename->metatag]], too, because it reminds me of accessing a data member of a structure (which is what referencing a meta tag is, really). --Peter
+
+> I dislike \[[pagename->metatag]] because other wikis use that as their normal link/label syntax.
+> I'm not sure that it is a good idea to refer to arbitrary meta tags in links in the first place - what other meta tags would you really be interested in?  Description?  Author?  It makes sense to me to refer to the title, because that is a "label" for a page.
+> As for syntax, I do like the \[[|foobar]] idea, or perhaps something like what <a href="http://www.pmwiki.org">PmWiki</a> does - they have their links the other way around, so they go \[[page|label]] and for link-text-as-title, they have \[[page|+]].  So for IkiWiki, that would be \[[+|page]] I guess.
+> --[[KathrynAndersen]]