X-Git-Url: https://sipb.mit.edu/gitweb.cgi/ikiwiki.git/blobdiff_plain/83e5069aab99dfec9d0ee581b3d68583f5b14834..ba17b7b96b72c9e9b42a24e6e58441e0710c433a:/doc/todo/fancypodcast.mdwn diff --git a/doc/todo/fancypodcast.mdwn b/doc/todo/fancypodcast.mdwn index 6345cdf9d..128017021 100644 --- a/doc/todo/fancypodcast.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/fancypodcast.mdwn @@ -1,22 +1,9 @@ -ikiwiki's simple podcasting, while elegant and minimal, doesn't (as -mentioned in [[todo/blogging]]) produce full-featured feeds. In -fancy podcasts, episodes are accompanied by text content. The feeds -also have lots more metadata. - -[[!toc]] - ## Status [[!template id=gitbranch branch=schmonz/fancypodcast author="[[schmonz]]"]] [[!tag patch]] -In summary, the branch preserves ikiwiki's existing podcast behavior, -adds more featureful behavior, and has been tested to work well in -some common podcatchers. I believe it is ready for review and -possible integration, and I'd like to get feedback to that effect -(or to the contrary) before making further enhancements. I know -[[joey]]'s the final arbiter here, but I'd appreciate any qualified, -critical eyes ([[smcv]]?) raking over my diffs. --[[schmonz]] +Nothing new since 2013/07/21 [[merge|done]] to `master`. ## Features @@ -37,149 +24,6 @@ Episode description|(./) |(./) |(./) | Episode enclosure |(./) |(./) |(./) |(./) """]] -## Design - -7. For each fancy podcast episode, write a blog post containing - `\[[!meta enclosure="WikiLink/to/media.mp3"]]`. (Don't specify - more than one enclosure -- but if you do, last one wins.) -7. When rendering to HTML (single-page or inlined), append a link - to the media file. -7. When rendering to RSS/Atom, the text is the entry's content and - the media file is its enclosure. -7. Don't break simple podcasts in pursuit of fancy podcasts. - -## Implementation - -### Completed - -* Cover the existing simple podcast behavior with tests. -* Add an `enclosure` field to [[plugins/meta]] that expands the - given [[ikiwiki/WikiLink]] to an absolute URL (feed enclosures - pretty much need to be, and the reference feeds I've looked at - all do this). -* Write failing tests for the desired single-page and inlined - HTML behavior, then make them pass by adding enclosure stanzas - to `{,inline}page.tmpl`. -* Write failing tests for the desired RSS/Atom behavior, then make - them pass via changes to `{atom,rss}item.tmpl` and [[plugins/inline]]. -* Match feature-for-feature with - [tru_podcast](http://www.rainskit.com/blog/542/tru_podcast-a-podcasting-plugin-for-textpattern) - (what [[schmonz]] will be migrating from). -* Enrich [feed metadata](http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/rss/rss.html) - by catching up `rsspage.tmpl` to `atompage.tmpl`. -* Verify that [[plugins/more]] plays well with fancy podcasts. -* Verify that the feeds validate. -* Subscribe to a fancy feed in some common podcatchers and verify - display details against a reference podcast. -* Verify smooth transitions for two common use cases (see testing - details below). - -### Must-have (for [[schmonz]], anyway) - -* Think carefully about UTF-8. -* Verify that _all_ the tests pass (not just my new ones). - -## Migration - -### Upgrading within ikiwiki: from simple to fancy - -#### My test podcast - -For this test, I chose a podcast that tries to work around ikiwiki's -current limitations by issuing two separate `inline`s: - -* One with `feedonly=yes` that includes `.mdwn`, `.pdf`, and `.mp3` -* One with `feeds=no` that includes only `.mdwn` (and makes a trail) - -This has the following effects: - -* Browser: sees just the articles (each of which has a manually - created link to its corresponding media file) -* Feedreader: sees all the articles and media in one flat stream -* Podcatcher: sees just the media (sans articles) - -I want instead to write one `inline` with these effects: - -* Browser: sees just the articles (each of which automatically links - to its enclosure) -* Feedreader: sees just the articles (each of which specifies its - enclosure) -* Podcatcher: sees just the enclosures (each of which has an enclosing - article, rendered as the media's "description") - -#### Upgrade steps - -7. Set up a non-production copy of the podcast. - 7. Visually diff RSS and Atom feeds against production. - 7. Subscribe to the copy (both feeds) in `r2e`, iTunes, Downcast. -7. Apply fancypodcast patch to the installed ikiwiki: - 7. `cd ~/Documents/trees/ikiwiki && git checkout fancypodcast` - 7. `git diff --no-prefix master > ~/Documents/trees/localpatches/www/ikiwiki/fancypodcast.diff` - 7. `cd ~/Documents/trees/pkgsrc-current/www/ikiwiki && make deinstall && make install clean` -7. Verify that simple podcasts are unaffected: - 7. Rerun `ikiwiki --setup`. - 7. `diff -uB simple-before.rss simple-after.rss` - * A few new elements and attributes, as expected. - 7. `diff -uB simple-before.atom simple-after.atom` - * No change. -7. Remove the feed-only `inline` and enable feeds on the remaining one. -7. Convert articles' manual download links to `\[[!meta enclosure=""]]`. -7. I want existing and future podcatchers to get my new fancy - episodes, and I know my podcast isn't in any planets, so I'm - going to skip [[tips/howto avoid flooding aggregators]]. -7. Rerun `ikiwiki --setup`. -7. Verify browser shows the same stuff. -7. `diff -uB simple-after.rss fancy-after.rss # and atom` - * MP3s and PDFs are no longer naked enclosures, but belong to - articles as they should. - * Articles have updated modification times, as they should. -7. `r2e run` (both RSS and Atom) - * Nothing new with the default `trust-guid = True` (otherwise - would expect updated articles). -7. iTunes "Update Podcast" (both RSS and Atom) - * Added one episode per article, with article text as the episode - description. - * Kept old naked-enclosure episodes around. -7. Downcast refresh (RSS): - * Added one episode per article, with article text as the episode - description. - * Kept old naked-enclosure episodes around. -7. Downcast refresh (Atom): - * Added one episode per article, with no episode description - (expected, see feature table). - * Kept old naked-enclosure episodes around. - -Different tradeoffs are possible. These seem okay to me. - -### Importing into ikiwiki: fancy (from another CMS) - -#### My test podcast - -For this test, I chose a podcast currently being published with -Textpattern and tru_podcast, because I'd strongly prefer to publish -it with ikiwiki instead. - -#### Upgrade steps - -7. Set up a non-production copy of the podcast. - 7. Visually diff RSS and Atom feeds against production. - 7. Subscribe to the copy (both feeds) in `r2e`, iTunes, Downcast. -7. With a fancypodcast-enabled ikiwiki installed: - 7. Copy content from Textpattern to ikiwiki: - 7. Match article paths to preserve `/YYYY/MM/DD/post-title` permalinks. - 7. Match enclosure paths (or redirect) to preserve Textpattern's URLs. - 7. Match titles, post dates, and guids with `\[[!meta]]`. - 7. Match feed paths with permanent redirects from `/atom/` to - `/index.atom` (and same for RSS). - 7. `\[[!inline]]` the articles. - 7. Rerun `ikiwiki --setup`. -7. Stop Textpattern, start ikiwiki. -7. Verify that podcatchers see the feeds and don't redownload anything. -7. Naively add two new blog posts, one with an enclosure. -7. Verify that podcatchers download the new enclosures. - ------ - ## Future improvements ### iTunes fancy podcasting @@ -212,8 +56,6 @@ it with ikiwiki instead. ### Other ideas -* Don't render template text (e.g., "Use this template to insert a - note into a page") in feeds. * Optionally specify the enclosure's: * MIME type, in case `File::MimeInfo` guesses wrong. * Duration, in case `ffprobe` guesses wrong. @@ -225,120 +67,3 @@ it with ikiwiki instead. * Configurably generate additional subscription links (such as iTunes) alongside the RSS/Atom ones in [[plugins/inline]]. * Support Apple's "enhanced podcasts" (if they're still relevant). - -### code review - - + # XXX better way to compute relative to srcdir? - + my $file = $absurl; - + $file =~ s|^$config{url}/||; - -I don't think ikiwiki offers a better way to do that, because there is -normally no reason to do that. Why does it need an url of this form here? ---[[Joey]] - -> In all the popular, production-quality podcast feeds I've looked -> at, enclosure URLs are always absolute (even when they could be -> expressed concisely as relative). [Apple's -> example](http://www.apple.com/itunes/podcasts/specs.html#example) -> does too. So I told \[[!meta]] to call `urlto()` with the third -> parameter true, which means the \[[!inline]] code here gets an -> absolute URL in `$pagestate{$p}{meta}{enclosure}`. To compute the -> enclosure's metadata, though, we of course need it as a local path. -> I didn't see a less -> [ongepotchket](http://www.jewish-languages.org/jewish-english-lexicon/words/1402) -> way at the time. If you have a better idea, I'm happy to hear it; -> if not, I'll add an explanatory comment. --[[schmonz]] - ->> I would be more comfortable with this if two two different forms of url ->> you need were both generated by calling urlto. It'd be fine to call ->> it more than once. --[[Joey]] - ->>> Heh, it was even easier than that! (Hooray for tests.) Done. ->>> --[[schmonz]] - - +
- + - -Can't we avoid adding this div when there's no enclosure? --[[Joey]] - -> Sure, I've moved the `` check to outside the -> section-and-div block for `{,inline}page.tmpl`. --[[schmonz]] - - +Download this episode - -"Download this episode" is pretty specific to particular use cases. -Can this be made more generic, perhaps just "Download"? --[[Joey]] - -> Yep, I got a little carried away. Done. --[[schmonz]] - - - - - <TMPL_VAR AUTHOR ESCAPE=HTML>: <TMPL_VAR TITLE> - - - -This change removes the author name from the title of the rss feed, which -does not seem necessary for fancy podcasts. And it is a change that -could negatively impact eg, Planet style aggregators using ikiwiki. --[[Joey]] - -> While comparing how feeds render in podcatchers, I noticed that -> RSS and Atom were inconsistent in a couple ways, of which this was -> one. The way I noticed it: with RSS, valuable title space was being -> spent to display the author. I figured Atom's display was the one -> worth matching. You're right, of course, that planets using the -> default template and somehow relying on the current author-in-the-title -> rendering for RSS feeds (but not Atom feeds!) would be broken by -> this change. I'm having trouble imagining exactly what would break, -> though, since guids and timestamps are unaffected. Would it suffice -> to provide a note in the changelog warning people to be careful -> upgrading their planets, and to customize `rssitem.tmpl` if they -> really prefer the old behavior (or don't want to take any chances)? -> --[[schmonz]] - ->> A specific example I know of is updo.debian.net, when used with ->> rss2email. Without the author name there, one cannot see who posted ->> an item. It's worth noting that planet.debian.org does the same thing ->> with its rss feed. (That's probably what I copied.) Atom feeds may ->> not have this problem, don't know. --[[Joey]] - ->>> Okay, that's easy to reproduce. It looks like this _might_ be ->>> a simple matter of getting \[[!aggregate]] to populate author in ->>> `add_page()`. I'll see what I can figure out. --[[schmonz]] - ->>>> Yep, that was mostly it. If the feed entry defines an author, ->>>> and the author is distinct from the feed name, we now show `NAME: ->>>> AUTHOR`, else just show `NAME` (same as always). In addition, ->>>> the W3 feed validator says `` is invalid, so ->>>> I replaced it with ``, and all of a sudden `r2e` ->>>> gives me better `From:` headers. With the latest on my branch, ->>>> when I generate the same planet as updo and run `r2e` over it, ->>>> the names I get in `From:` look like so: - - "updo: Junio C Hamano" - "updo: Greg Kroah-Hartman" - "updo: Eric Raymond: esr"` (article author != feed name, so we get both) - "updo: Jannis Pohlman: Jannis Pohlmann"` (oops! I tweaked the real updo) - - +++ b/templates/rsspage.tmpl - + xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" - + - -Why is it using atom namespace inside an rss feed? What are the chances -every crummy rss reader on earth is going to understand this? I'd put it at -about 0%; I doubt ikiwiki's own rss reader understands such a mashup. ---[[Joey]] - -> The validator I used () told me to. -> Pretty sure it doesn't make anything work better in the podcatchers -> I tried. Hadn't considered that it might break some readers. -> Removed. --[[schmonz]] - - +ikiwiki - -Does this added tag provide any benefits? --[[Joey]] - -> Consistency with the Atom feed, and of course it trumpets ikiwiki -> to software and/or curious humans who inspect their feeds. The tag -> arrived only in RSS 2.0, but that's already the version we're -> claiming to be, and it's over a decade old. Seems much less risky -> than the atom namespace bits. --[[schmonz]] - ->> Sounds ok then. --[[Joey]]