From: Joey Hess Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:16:53 +0000 (-0400) Subject: review, multiple concerns X-Git-Url: https://sipb.mit.edu/gitweb.cgi/ikiwiki.git/commitdiff_plain/97898ce585b36dbcb0a83356ef3e54c41d369437 review, multiple concerns --- diff --git a/doc/todo/allow_site-wide_meta_definitions.mdwn b/doc/todo/allow_site-wide_meta_definitions.mdwn index 99a9cf1e2..e4638f94b 100644 --- a/doc/todo/allow_site-wide_meta_definitions.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/allow_site-wide_meta_definitions.mdwn @@ -36,6 +36,30 @@ definitions essentially. >> I've made may not be acceptable, though -- I'd appreciate someone providing >> some feedback on that hunk! +>>> Well, re that hunk, taint checking is currently disabled, but +>>> if the perl bug that disallows it is fixed and it is turned back on, +>>> the hash values will remain tainted, which will probably lead to +>>> problems. +>>> +>>> I'm also leery of using such a complex data structure in config. +>>> The websetup plugin would be hard pressed to provide a UI for such a +>>> data structure. (It lacks even UI for a single hash ref yet, let alone +>>> a list.) +>>> +>>> Also, it seems sorta wrong to have two so very different syntaxes to +>>> represent the same meta data. A user without a lot of experience will +>>> be hard pressed to map from a directive to this in the setup file. +>>> +>>> All of which leads me to think the setup file could just contain +>>> a text that could hold meta directives. Which generalizes really to +>>> a text that contains any directives, and is, perhaps appended to the +>>> top of every page. Which nearly generalizes to the sidebar plugin, +>>> or perhaps something more general than that... +>>> +>>> However, excessive generalization is the root of all evil, so +>>> I'm not necessarily saying that's a good idea. Indeed, my memory +>>> concerns below invalidate this idea pretty well. --[[Joey]] + diff --git a/IkiWiki/Plugin/meta.pm b/IkiWiki/Plugin/meta.pm index 6fe9cda..2f8c098 100644 --- a/IkiWiki/Plugin/meta.pm @@ -125,6 +149,10 @@ definitions essentially. >> are only relevant to defined fields that you wouldn't want to specify a >> global default for anyway. >> +>>> I generally agree with this. It is *possible* that meta would have a new +>>> field added, that takes parameters and make sense to use globally. +>>> --[[Joey]] +>> >> Due to this, and the added complexity of the second patch (having to adjust >> `IkiWiki/Setup.pm`), I think the first patch makes more sense. I've thus >> reverted to it here. @@ -183,3 +211,21 @@ definitions essentially. >>> ikiwiki for the break, and now I've returned to watching recentchanges. >>> Hopefully I'll be back in the mix soon, too. In the meantime, Joey, have >>> you had a chance to look at this yet? -- [[Jon]] + +>>> For this to work with websetup and --dumpsetup, it needs to define the +>>> `meta_*` settings in the getsetup function. +>>> +>>> I also have some concerns about both these patches, since both throw +>>> a lot of redundant data at meta, which then stores it in a very redundant +>>> way. Specifically, meta populates a per-page `%metaheaders` hash +>>> as well as storing per-page metadata in `%pagestate`. So, if you have +>>> a wiki with a thousand pages, and you add a 1k site-wide license text, +>>> that will bloat the memory usage of ikiwiki by in excess of 2 +>>> megabytes. It will also cause ikiwiki to write a similar amount more data +>>> to its state file which has to be loaded back in each +>>> run. +>>> +>>> Seems that this could be managed much more efficiently by having +>>> meta special-case the site-wide settings, not store them in these +>>> per-page data structures, and just make them be used if no per-page +>>> metadata of the given type is present. --[[Joey]]